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Yes, evolution has a clear and specific meaning, but it has nothing to do with progress, though that's a popular misconception. The Oxford Dictionary defines evolution as "origination of species by development from earlier forms" and Merriam-Webster says "distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations". The word 'evolution' is _also_ used to mean progress, but that's a different meaning in a different context, just like 'work' has different meaning in common speech and physics. The biological process of evolution isn't about progress, just descent with modification. I already linked you to an earlier post of mine about that, and here's another explanation:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_teacherfaq.php#a3
The rest of your criticism seems to boil down to taking the position that limbs did not evolve from fins. In this post, I'm not at all trying to "lead [you] to the conclusion that limbs evolved from fins". The post addresses new research about how the genetic mechanisms patterning fins changed during the evolution of limbs; it takes the fact that tetrapod limbs evolved from fins as given. I don't try to justify it -- it's the starting point, right there in the first paragraph. As far as I know, that's an established scientific fact without any serious challenge. If you disagree with it, you can start with the summary on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrapod_evolution#From_fins_to_feet
or have a look at this paper from 2001 (and the references therein) for a more technical perspective:
http://homepage.univie.ac.at/brian.metscher/Wagner01_FinLimbHypothesis.pdf
1) "You seem to think I was implying that limbs are somehow "better" or "more advanced" than fins"= well the term "evolve" has a clear meaning, and obviously that's where the emphasis is, starting from the title
2) "Newts and Axolotis"= you might be right, but these organisms escape the specific case of study right (which is mice_zebrafish)? and there is not enough data to conclude that mammal's limbs and lizard's limbs are the same (excluding the phylogenetic approach which I believe is too subjective). So, I do not see how bringing these two organisms in the discussion, can explain why rodents are not able to regenerate limbs or eyes.
Main criticism to your article: you start from a very specific and small finding (which is the alleged similarity between a couple of regulatory expression pathways) to draw a Grande Conclusion. In other words, I do not believe that the data you are presenting can really lead us to the conclusion that limbs evolved from fins, which is exactly what you state in the title.
You seem to think I was implying that limbs are somehow "better" or "more advanced" than fins, which isn't at all what I mean when I say limbs evolved from fins. That simply means that limbs arose my modification of an ancestral structure which was a fin. As I've written elsewhere, evolution is not the same as progress:
http://inspiringscience.net/2012/02/15/five-common-biology-myths/#scala
I honestly don't know much about the question of regeneration, but I do know that some tetrapods do regenerate their limbs -- newts and axolotls are famous examples. I don't know whether it's true that all fins regenerate, but it's also not relevant. As I said above, the statement that "limbs evolved from fins" isn't any kind of value judgement; it simply means that limbs are fins which were modified for locomotion on land. That including the evolution of a mechanism to pattern them into arm/leg and digits, which is what this post addresses.
Thank you for your comments, and here my reply:
I often read from Scitable, and I enjoy it, however I get quite disappointed to see scientific commentaries written as creative writing" essays, where for example the titles are used as shiny traps to attract birds.
For the content: you are presenting your arguments about how limbs generated from fins, and I commented by saying that this is a controversial issue. For example, we all agree that limbs terminate with true finger/toe bones, and fin termine with bony rays which are anatomically and tissue wise very different from the first ones, but that is not my point. Fins are able to regenerate, fingers and toes obviously not. How can you explain the loss of such an advantageous trait? How can you ignore it and jump to the conclusion that limbs are the 2.0 version of fins?
Should we talk about "involution" more than evolution and title the article How Limbs Involved from Fins?
ps: by the way plants (but you could pick bacteria or insects as well) succeed better than the finger-ed organisms on terrestrial environments
What's so controversial about the topic? Yes, it's /complicated/, and I didn't summarize all of the research in this single blog post, but that's not what Accumulating Glitches is about. In general, the posts here cover advances made in 1-3 research articles, not overviews of an entire field or question.
I would be glad to read studies dealing with comparative anatomy, organogenesis, tissue development, and mechanics of fins and limbs