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Published online 25 August 2008 | Nature | doi:10.1038/news.2008.1061
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Double first for Large Hadron Collider
Counter-clockwise beam test produces historic particle collisions.
Champagne corks popped at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) this weekend after one of the facility's four giant particle detectors tasted its first authentic data. Crammed into a stuffy control room on the afternoon of Friday 22 August, physicists tracked the debris produced by protons that had struck a block of concrete during a test of the €3 billion (£2.
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Have you read the recent paper by German astrophysicist Dr. Rainer Plaga? On the potential catastrophic risk from metastable quantum-black holes produced at particle colliders[1] "Concluding, G & M have not demonstrated that white dwarfs stop cosmic-ray produced mBHs in general. Their exclusion of dangerous mBHs thus remains not definite." [1] http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0808/0808.1415v1.pdf
Also concluding: "At the present stage of knowledge there is a definite risk from mBHs production at colliders. This final conclusion differs completely from the one drawn by G & M." For a good summary of CERN's safety arguments I recommend the 73 minute August 14, 2008 CERN video talk with opposition rebuttal paper following at: http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=72
Good work boys ciao enrico
Man's technology has exceeded his grasp. - 'The World is not Enough' Zealous Nobel Prize hungry Physicists are racing each other and stopping at nothing to try to find the supposed 'Higgs Boson'(aka God) Particle, among others, and are risking nothing less than the annihilation of the Earth and all Life in endless experiments hoping to prove a theory when urgent tangible problems face the planet. The European Organization for Nuclear Research(CERN) new Large Hadron Collider(LHC) is the world's most powerful atom smasher that will soon be firing subatomic particles at each other at nearly the speed of light to create Miniature Big Bangs producing Micro Black Holes, Strangelets and other potentially cataclysmic phenomena. Particle physicists have run out of ideas and are at a dead end forcing them to take reckless chances with more and more powerful and costly machines to create new and never-seen-before, unstable and unknown matter while Astrophysicists, on the other hand, are advancing science and knowledge on a daily basis making new discoveries in these same areas by observing the universe, not experimenting with it and with your life. The LHC is a dangerous gamble as CERN physicist Alvaro De Rújula in the BBC LHC documentary, 'The Six Billion Dollar Experiment', incredibly admits quote, "Will we find the Higgs particle at the LHC? That, of course, is the question. And the answer is, science is what we do when we don't know what we're doing." And CERN spokesmodel Brian Cox follows with this stunning quote, "the LHC is certainly, by far, the biggest jump into the unknown." The CERN-LHC website Mainpage itself states: "There are many theories as to what will result from these collisions,..." Again, this is because they truly don't know what's going to happen. They are experimenting with forces they don't understand to obtain results they can't comprehend. If you think like most people do that 'They must know what they're doing' you could not be more wrong. Some people think similarly about medical Dr.s but consider this by way of comparison and example from JAMA: "A recent Institute of Medicine report quoted rates estimating that medical errors kill between 44,000 and 98,000 people a year in US hospitals." The second part of the CERN quote reads "...but what's for sure is that a brave new world of physics will emerge from the new accelerator,..." A molecularly changed or Black Hole consumed Lifeless World? The end of the quote reads "...as knowledge in particle physics goes on to describe the workings of the Universe." These experiments to date have so far produced infinitely more questions than answers but there isn't a particle physicist alive who wouldn't gladly trade his life to glimpse the "God particle", and sacrifice the rest of us with him. Reason and common sense will tell you that the risks far outweigh any potential(as CERN physicists themselves say) benefits. This quote from National Geographic exactly sums this "science" up: "That's the essence of experimental particle physics: You smash stuff together and see what other stuff comes out." Find out more about that "stuff" below; http://www.SaneScience.org/ http://www.LHCFacts.org http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm http://www.lhcdefense.org/ http://www.lhcconcerns.com Popular Mechanics - "World's Biggest Science Project Aims to Unlock 'God Particle'" - http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4216588.html"
To say that we might create black holes sounds a little egotistical to me. To think that you can figure out how a watch works by smashing it with a hammer and studying the parts is a bit obserd as well. I hope that some insites into the nature of our universe can be gleaned from these experiments, but I truely feel that much more can be learned from a more suttle type of research into the micro cosum. I do not believe that God is misterious he is only suttle as any loving father would be.All dynamis systems are dependent upon harmony and the equitable shairing of energy for their existance. Why should it be any different in the micro cosum than in the macro cosum? The Key to connecting the four forces of nature is not the finding of particular particals or quanta it is in finding out how the overall desine works for all the particles and how they are shaired in braod spectrum events.
Identifying these particles helps physicists understand those theories and if we didn't have tools for opening a watch then we might smash a watch to brake it apart to see what is inside and figure out how it works.
What nonsense! Physicists who ignored 3,000 data points that define all atomic matter in the visible universe and reveal the source of nuclear energy that powers the Sun and sustains the very lives of physicists and their families -- http://www.omatumr.com/Data/2000Data.htm http://www.omatumr.com/Photographs/SolarEnergy.htm -- celebrating data collected as protons from the €3 billion (£2.1 billion) HLC beam-injection system strike a block of concrete! Fortunately, real science continues to advance, usually far removed from the mainstream of consensus opinions and the free flow of public funds: http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.3283 or http://arxiv.org/pdf/0808.3283v1 Oliver K. Manuel, Emeritus Professor of Nuclear Chemistry and Space Studies, http://myprofile.cos.com/manuelo09
Wouldn't that be a much more graceful and honorable way (free of pain!) of committing global suicide by a man-build black hole, as compared to littering the planet, wasting and poisoning water resources, nuking each others' countries, overheating the planet with CO2, suffocation from emissions, extinction of our flora by blacking out sunlight due to exhaust gases, over-uprooting our forests, dying of hunger or man-made mad cow disease , a bird flu epidemic, a gene technology or nuclear maximum credible accident, etc...? It seems to me (as a layman!) to be the wrong way to heavily discuss ONLY the faint risk (for the future) and leave completely aside the high chances such experiments might offer in (directly or indirectly) solving our planet's already EXISTING and ACCELERATING problems that NEED answers NOW... So be it!